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Edited by iidaptive: 5/11/2025 6:10:11 AM
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Invis in PvP is obnoxious, needs more downsides

Fighting a team of 3 invis hunters is completely stupid and I think many would agree. invis doesn’t belong in this game but if it has to be here, it needs more drawbacks. Not having radar is only a good start. Needs more. Maybe not able to switch weps. Maybe slower movement, something.

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  • How about we just remove hunters entirely? Then maybe the complaining will stop.

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    • Edited by Ghostfire239: 5/13/2025 12:07:27 AM
      I really don’t see how Invis itself is a problem. You ping the enemy radar, and you basically lose your own radar. That paired with the audio cue, and it being generally easy to see (except on some parts of certain maps). I feel like the game gives players more than enough tools to deal with invis. It basically a stealth ability that actively gives itself away. Sure fighting multiple invis players is annoying but so is multiple of almost anything in this game. I feel like RDM giving back so much dodge energy per primary weapon kill is the main problem rather than invisibility itself. It basically returns a whole dodge charge back on a primary kill (and can even let you hold three charges two more dodge charges in reserve), which lets you spam vanishing step to an extreme degree. From my experiences fighting Invis, I rarely struggle to see/kill invisible players however what bothers me is they are able to spam it so frequently due to RDM that it just becomes frustrating to deal with. That’s just my view on it.

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    • They should take 2x damage while invis. Problem solved

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      • Just make invis players easier to see (more opaque character outine). That is most of my problems solved. Most frustrating part of invis is not being able to see players down certain sightlines until AFTER they shoot.

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        • Invisible doesn't belong in any FPS game

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          • Yeah and putting up a wall anywhere should have way more down sides

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            • Edited by Killapete232: 5/11/2025 10:59:10 AM
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              Loading..... - 5/12/2025 4:47:38 PM

              Nah I find it quite funny how your clan states no whining, yet every post you made has been to nerf hunter smoke, RDM, invisibility, so on and so on. Adapt, overcome, conquer. Be even keeled, it's not that serious, it's just a game.

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              • I Not adaptive strikes again

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                • While invis you cant shoot or use abilities

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                • Nah

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                  • The drawback is no radar.

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                    • Not to mention it hides your health and weapon.

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                    • I think it's important to keep in mind that Radiant Dance Machines and On the Prowl are what let Nightstalkers spam Vanishing Step over and over again. Is invis a problem? Yeah, kinda. But it's because of OtP and RDM being such a strong combination. Even OtP and RDM on their own are really strong. OtP could use more tweaking; maybe take away the recharging of class ability when you kill someone with it so it doesn't stack with RDM. As for RDM, I just wish Bungie would revert them to how they were before the rework.

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                      Getting up to 3 invis charges with RDMs is honestly just absurd, they need to disable that function on vanishing step. Keep it in pve

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                    • Of course all the invis crunching 🤡 downvote the obvious problem.

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                      • to all those saying adapt, something is clearly a problem if over half the player base are using it in comp. thankfully usage figures are something that bungie actually looks like, so expect nerfs.

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                          Agreed, it should take you twice as long to get your abilities charged when using or something like that, upvote👍

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                        • If PvP was a body, Invis spammers is the plague

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                        • It’s really not fair that they are completely invincible and don’t ping radar. They used to be like holographic so you could see their outline. Now it’s just stupid how they can be right on top of you without ever seeing them coming. Not to mention I’m pretty sure invis significantly reduces the opponents aim assist. Going against a team of 3 is absolute toxicity

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                        • Actually they still do have radar, within 24 meters, lmao. Fusion, last word, etc. wtf. Also invis is invis, not HUNTERS. Some will deffo label you “hate hunters”, but your not. Invis is simply ridiculous.

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                        • The guardian and weapon are invis so there shouldn’t be a reticle/visible sight to help them aim.

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                            D2 = solidly back to negative - 5/13/2025 1:30:55 AM

                            agree... invis is just terrible.. you can shoot while invis?? what... shotgun, vex, fusion, heavy.. wait until perfect moment...hide.. blast away = dumb

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