Seeing a lot of "mid feedback" about the rite of the nine weapons
[b]I'm here to tell you about the standouts. [/b]
[spoiler](most are mid but mainly because they are on[u] niche weapon types[/u])[/spoiler]
1. [b]Judgement:[/b]
[u]This is the best Stasis Hand cannon in the game now [/u]because it has[b] Paracausal Affinity [/b]
-----[b]Demo /headstone/ rapid hit + Paracausal is what you should aim for [/b]
2. [b]Prosecutor[/b] is the best 450 arc auto rifle right now for the same reason.
Dragonfly + Paracausal will be very strong......[b]Paracausal affinity makes some of the lower tier archetypes that much better or usable because of how versatile the perk is.[/b]
3. [b]No Survivors[/b] is now the best solar SMG in the game for many reasons.
[b]it is the only solar SMG that can get Heal-clip + Incandescent[/b]
[b]It is the only solar SMG that can get Demolitionist + Incandescent (solar builds)[/b]
[b]It is the only solar SMG that has Master of Arms with a utility perk like Heal-clip or Demo[/b]
[u][b]No Survivors is a must get!!![/b][/u]
4. [b]Cold Comfort[/b]
[u]Was already the best Stasis Rocket Launcher in the game[/u] & has remained that way.
Envious arsenal + Bait & Switch
Or Reconstruction + Bipod/chill clip
[b]These are the 4 weapons you should have by the time the event ends![/b]
It is unlikely you'll see guns like this again.
Insert: 5. [b]Sudden Death!!![/b]
[b]-This is the only shotgun in the game to get [u]one-two punch + Trench Barrel![/u]!![/b]
[u]Get THIS just to have (especially for Titans & Hunters)[/u]
Edit:
Surges are important & it is important to take into account when Meta weapons are released.....
[b]No Survivors is now a Meta pick....You will miss out if you don't get the rolls on this gun...[/b]
Same goes for [b]Judgement[/b] as well....Darkness builds are common & Stasis does not have that many good weapons for that damage type....Judgement is one of the best stasis type weapons at the moment. go and get it. (It'll be great in rimecoat builds too)
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Can you only farm the weapons from the active dungeon that week. I've tried weapons tt don't drop from dungeon and they don't drop from the chest in the rite area. Trying to get the pulse rifle with firefly and hatchling.
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I would love to get all guns but is attunement working? I am not getting weapons dropped I am attuned to only the sidearm, machine gun, scout and grenade launcher keep dropping and those are not what I want.
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Every one of these weapons, plus most weapons (and armor) in your vault will be obsolete in less than 2 months time when EoF drops. Every weapon pattern, every high stat (and artifice) armor that guardians spent many, many hours grinding for will be mid or even less. It is pointless chasing any loot now.
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Chasing loot is stupid. It's random. They should bring crafting back
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sav
here to spew hate & sew discontent - old
You know what I hate? Bungie making weapons like SMG’s needing a utility perk (demo/attrition orb/heal clip) while also needing a splash/damage perk, and while also needing a reload perk too. Why do SMG’s have some of the worst base reload stats in the game? It’s stupid. -
Ferus Lux
"I got a soul now?" - old
They're all mid. They played it too safe. -
Edited by ben: 5/8/2025 6:53:31 PMThese guns are interesting at best but nothing truly top tier except a sudden death imo. Yes judgment is the best stasis hand cannon but that doesnt mean much when stasis hand cannons arent good. Midnight coup wipes the floor with it in that slot and weapon type if you can find another way to generate dark energy. It is also competing with the tremors attrition multimach which is busted strong right now. If you like hand cannons you should use zaolis bane, maahhes or ancient gospel, these all give splash damage and free up your primary slot for a dark energy weapon... like tinashas or lost signal which are just ridiculously good. And same deal with prosecutor 450 autos just arent good. If you want to use an arc auto rifle pyroelectric propellant wipes the floor with it in every way even the origin trait is better. Cold comfort is good, but arguably worse than the original version, and hezen vengeance unfortunately just makes every other rocket launcher completely irrelevant anyway, among other good rocket launchers it is on a tier on its own because nothing else can get that origin trait. Sudden death does bring something totally novel to the table and it will be good. Wilderflight also would be awesome but twin fire GLs in the energy slot just dont really have a use case. Liturgy can get slideways chill clip and generate dark energy which is nuts. If we were in 2022 when blinding GLs were the cream of the crop, wilderflight would be INSANELY good, but that utility has been powercrept out of relevance. Edit I do also like the idea of incandescent heal clip on no survivors I'll definitely be getting that because not a lot of meta frame primary ammo weapons can roll that. When people say guns are mid it doesnt mean they suck. A lot of these are great guns. I think the point is when you consider that they require you to do a pretty difficult activity assuming you are farming on ultimatum, they really did not go all out with making them worth the chase. A lot of these are outshined by things that already exist and are a lot easier to get.
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Edited by IAGNRG: 5/8/2025 2:27:36 PMIt is a [i]crime[/i] that the Long Arm wasn’t given Voltshot.
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Here is the issue. The meta for this artifact is already set… The perks for next seasons artifact is unknown but will shape the next meta and that’s when the important weapons will be known. There is no reason to farm weapons anymore because of how hard the artifact and subclass updates dictate the meta. Unfortunately weapons in Destiny are now only great seasonally :/
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Lmao pencil neck
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For Judgement in PvE it's Timed Payload. 16.5% dmg buff. Affinity is 20 for 6 (7) seconds per proc. The difference is nominal respective dps. There's no buy-in for Timed Payload... 100% uptime. Despite being refreshable, and activating stowed... good, but Timed Payload is better. In PvE.
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If you don't mind doing some trials Summoner is a better option than No Survivors on console. Summoner has far less reticle scatter and weapon shake on console and much more range. It can also get HC + Inca. Not sure how they compare on PC.
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the only must get is the gl and maybe the rocket for a different element
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😂😂 with this weight gate still being a thing? Have fun not getting the roll you want.
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[quote]Seeing a lot of "mid feedback" about the rite of the nine weapons [b]I'm here to tell you about the standouts. [/b] [spoiler](most are mid but mainly because they are on[u] niche weapon types[/u])[/spoiler] 1. [b]Judgement:[/b] [u]This is the best Stasis Hand cannon in the game now [/u]because it has[b] Paracausal Affinity [/b] -----[b]Demo /headstone/ rapid hit + Paracausal is what you should aim for [/b] 2. [b]Prosecutor[/b] is the best 450 arc auto rifle right now for the same reason. Dragonfly + Paracausal will be very strong......[b]Paracausal affinity makes some of the lower tier archetypes that much better or usable because of how versatile the perk is.[/b] 3. [b]No Survivors[/b] is now the best solar SMG in the game for many reasons. [b]it is the only solar SMG that can get Heal-clip + Incandescent[/b] [b]It is the only solar SMG that can get Demolitionist + Incandescent (solar builds)[/b] [b]It is the only solar SMG that has Master of Arms with a utility perk like Heal-clip or Demo[/b] [u][b]No Survivors is a must get!!![/b][/u] 4. [b]Cold Comfort[/b] [u]Was already the best Stasis Rocket Launcher in the game[/u] & has remained that way. Envious arsenal + Bait & Switch Or Reconstruction + Bipod/chill clip [b]These are the 4 weapons you should have by the time the event ends![/b] It is unlikely you'll see guns like this again. Insert: 5. [b]Sudden Death!!![/b] [b]-This is the only shotgun in the game to get [u]one-two punch + Trench Barrel![/u]!![/b] [u]Get THIS just to have (especially for Titans & Hunters)[/u] Edit: Surges are important & it is important to take into account when Meta weapons are released..... [b]No Survivors is now a Meta pick....You will miss out if you don't get the rolls on this gun...[/b] Same goes for [b]Judgement[/b] as well....Darkness builds are common & Stasis does not have that many good weapons for that damage type....Judgement is one of the best stasis type weapons at the moment. go and get it. (It'll be great in rimecoat builds too)[/quote] And how much did bungie pay you to say this? If not paid, truly sad and pathetic.
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I think the weapons are good and you have points but I don’t think they’re must have - not even the shotgun which is the most unique. Bold endings is a better archetype stasis handcannon for PvE and gets headstone and desperate measures which has a higher ceiling and similar activation. Parabellum is a better solar smg if you don’t want incandescent as it gets heal clip and frenzy. The shotgun is super unique but if you’re building into a one-two punch build then you want to be punching, not using your ammo on shotgun damage as most of your dps is your melee - perfect paradox auto reloads on melee and you can get field prep.
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Like... why did they put bum -blam!- Spire of the watcher into this event. The loot is so awful that not even perk updates can save them, the frames of the weapons are just dog. If they wanted to make it worthwhile they should've either flat out changed the weapon frames or made those frames not terrible. Opening week of the event too being the worst dungeon lmao.
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I’d add wilderflight with envious + b&s to your list because that will be a solid option for dps rotations for people chasing rolls. However, none of these are best in slot or meta weapons with the current artifact, and all are expected to be sunset/ power creep in a couple months. Bottom line, it’s really not worth spending a lot of time or energy to grind anything in this event.
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I got the double fire grenade launcher with disorienting, repulsor, destabilizing
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Paracausal/headstone sounds cool. I don't think prospector will be as good as pyro electric. No survivors may be good, I'll probably get it, but honestly the old version of the gun I have just feels really bad. Cold comfort is one I'll pick up, but unfortunately it doesn't have envious assassin, which I think suits it better than arsenal because hezen already has the same roll with an origin trait that just outclasses resto. Sudden death will be pretty good. 1/2 + trench or disco/redirect will be the rolls on that I'm interested in. I like new Pacific with demo/chain or time/chain. Maybe demo/redirection. Wilderflight with auto load/withering is neat, but not going to be anything special. Long arm is a huge disappointment. It NEEDED voltshot in the left column. Voltshot/rolling with the origin trait would have been amazing.
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Lost interest in any stasis rocket after the chill clip/wolfpack rounds nerf. Bump in the night had one thing going for it.
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OP: thanks for the heads-up! ✅ Cheers! 🫡
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I'm so, so tired of actual usable weapons with good meta perk combos getting the fomo treatment in these time limited events
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False hoarding guns is bad and makes you stupid for having lower vault space don’t go after any rolls and shard everything the guns you currently have more then suffice you can tell because you can complete activities to get the nine guns therefore they are good enough. Sarcasm right ?
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Why isn't anyone talking about the shotgun? It can roll with both 1-2-punch and trench barrel!
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I would like to have the strand pulse with dragonfly and threadlings. That's about it.