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5/5/2025 4:27:39 PM
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PvP for lower skilled players
Why even bother..
Apparently I was being considered for ranking & I jus got rekt over & over..
Why should mid to low level players even bother to try?
U wonder why the pool is shrinking when it essentially jus feeds us to higher skilled players?
There is zero chance of actually learning maps or lanes when some ape jus appears with a shotty or lanes with a god roll..
Why would we even bother to be slaughtered over & over for zero movement in any regard?
Is it any wonder it's become such a mess of sweats & hardcore, yet you lock catalyst behind participation of this misery of a game mode?
This is why your player pool is shrinking.. then THOSE players cry cos there's no one to farm..
There's a place for your catalyst.. and I can't say it cos you'll censor it in case someone gets offended by a word..
I don't even know why I bother to post, cos it won't get seen.. all it will do is get a load of 'gut gid' posts from sweaty idiots who live in a dying playlist...
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#destiny2
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4 RepliesNo "sweat" wants to play New Lights (or really bad players). It is BORING to play against them and ANNOYING to play with them
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1 ReplyI hated PVP and still do but over the years I learned to just stop caring as much...and Guess what I started having fun... destiny is not an e-sport it's not balanced and never will be... crucible is a side mode and banner and trials are just themed events for the sake of a loot chase Comp is no different...treat it as the arcade it is and just have fun with it the best you can....me and a few buddies played a few hours of banner using only glaives it was a blast...
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You shouldn’t it’s not a PvP game… the pve is this games best aspect
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10 Replieswe had strict sbmm for years, never worked now we have loose sbmm and is still a problem, sbmm is the mm that kills pvp games. Sbmm is even worse for d2 since is a game that use p2p and most players have mid connections especially on console
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Edited by NotCreative123: 5/6/2025 3:36:04 PM*dupe*
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2 RepliesEdited by Milk: 5/5/2025 7:26:06 PM[quote]Why even bother.. Apparently I was being considered for ranking & I jus got rekt over & over.. Why should mid to low level players even bother to try? U wonder why the pool is shrinking when it essentially jus feeds us to higher skilled players? There is zero chance of actually learning maps or lanes when some ape jus appears with a shotty or lanes with a god roll.. Why would we even bother to be slaughtered over & over for zero movement in any regard? Is it any wonder it's become such a mess of sweats & hardcore, yet you lock catalyst behind participation of this misery of a game mode? This is why your player pool is shrinking.. then THOSE players cry cos there's no one to farm.. There's a place for your catalyst.. and I can't say it cos you'll censor it in case someone gets offended by a word.. I don't even know why I bother to post, cos it won't get seen.. all it will do is get a load of 'gut gid' posts from sweaty idiots who live in a dying playlist...[/quote] Sucking at something is the first step to being good at something, and if you quit before you take your second step because the first step was too hard then go find a corner to sit in and complain to the wall. You have private matches to go learn your lanes and maps in, and there are dozens of discord servers full of people looking to practice in PvP. You have every tool. The only thing stopping you is you.
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Don't mind the losers who demand to maintain the system of easy matches or blame you from wanting to play against skill peers. There's nothing to be learned from taking a beatdown in a lopsided match. At this late lifecycle of the game, I suggest simply moving to one with better matchmaking. Perhaps Bungie will be more concerned with player retention, but today isn't that day. Ps. I'm tired of matchmaking, and the current system benefits me greatly.
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You want SBMM in placement matches? Placement matches are literally there to determine your skill level and to place you accordingly.
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7 RepliesHe is literally whining about the RANKED playlist and its PLACEMENT games. It’s finding out where you belong. And you clearly are finding out where that is. What you fail to realize, when you are used to a SBMM system, and you go to something that does t use that, like trials and comp, you get steamrolled. You were rewarded for making bad plays and bad pushes in your SBMM lobbies and thought you were doing something. You never were punished for bad plays. You built bad habits and now you seem to find it as a problem. This is why CBMM has ALWAYS been the better option, no need to continue on why though. You’re learning that now. If you had CBMM you would have played with better players routinely, both with and against, and learned better play-style habits. Also, don’t forget, bungie forces a 50/50 algorithm as well in game. So there’s also that to fight against. The problem is t necessarily you. Bungie has a system that’s inadvertently hurting the majority of its player base. But, they refuse to listen to the top 1% to fix it.
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4 RepliesIf you really wanted to get better you would stop whining and instead learn from the better players you are getting rammed by. When I was more of a burger I would also get demolished by people playing for 5+ years but since I am a quick learner I could figure of my mistakes and get better fast. Now I go into scrimms against good players and get destroyed again. I can barely hang without being too much of a detriment to my team. I just repeat the process, learning from the players who slam me and copying habits and even their builds and settings then I later shift things around to my preference. Slowly I am able to hang a little better, but it’s a process and I need to play 100s more hours of pickups until I am good enough to play in a tourney.
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It is tough, but competitive ain't a good place to get your catalyst kills, better to play 6's like iron banner or control.
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Ibfeel bring back trials of the nine could be helpful to categorize players
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Welcome to the eventual result of any pvp that stays around long enough. Just how skill creep works. Also, good job echoing the most disingenuous part of that debate possible.
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Good players don’t get good matches either. Also, the pop isn’t good overall so acting like PvP is only part of the game that is bleeding players is funny.
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Agreed. I feel bad when defeat lower skill players in pvp because they haven't got their rhythm in play style or favorite pvp weapons to use.
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RealDerpPerksaka Hitachi nr83a2 - old
What are you talking about? I watched my brother play pvp who is a 0.7 and holy smokes he played other bots. When I play since I’m a 2.87 sweat I play the same players over and over. Tryhard lobby’s. I want to farm bots but it’s impossible these days. -
1 ReplyWe should be put in matches based on the end of the last seasons avarage KD if that make sense
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Idc, I've been having fun playing 6v6 modes from time to time.
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I hear a lot of salt So fess up, what you taking into the shaxx's circuit of doom as you like to call it. Give us your average, chill pvp loadout
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TLDR I was a bottom tier player I improved 23x Flawless in Solo Queue, 1x 7 wins in current meta solo queue. Git gud.
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elitegD2 = ☺ (hopeful, great job) - 5/6/2025 4:59:30 PM
a compromise I would say between Bungie's need to funnel population into the mode and folks being destroyed would be giving them 1 match like this: Acclimation match (just 1 match.. more would be better but..) - it would be like adding a fish to a new aquarium, you plop it in with its bag, you gotta keep'em separated® from the established fish and you begin mixing the water... 2 ways I would do this in PVP: 1. Ultimate - you put the "new fish" in the match with both DR resistance and maybe doing less damage.. they get a "new driver" tag license plate... anyway that approach can be messed with and then they are released. 2. Bots - you give "new fish" 1 escalating bot fishy mode. I haven;t seen any real tricky AI in this game that could come close to player level difficulty but you could get several new fish together. Yes more matches would be better.. but also one stipulation is nothing is earned in these matches... to get the fish into the pool after this... one would hope the game could establish some level of balance.. but ultimately all fish have to realize there is always a bigger fish... and its ok to lose while you learn -
Edited by Illuminatis_fedl: 5/5/2025 8:21:13 PMYour way of thinking is the reason why PvP is the way it is for most people. You cry and cry with this victim mentality, y’all are about just as bad as hunter mains when it comes to nerfs. Everyone started from some where I was your skill level back at the end of forsaken. If you want to improve actually attempt/want to, don’t half -blam!- it.
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What would you want them to change that would change this outcome for you? I don't think the player pool is shrinking because they're bad at pvp, otherwise we'd have never had much of a player pool to begin with.
