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5/4/2025 6:45:03 PM
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The game needs a reset
Whether it be through destiny 3 or whatever expansion comes next just straight up resetting everything in the game, but something has to happen.
This is a looter shooter game, with no replayability because all of the things that make a looter shooter replayable... don't exist in destiny, at least not anymore.
The game's been out so long that everyone has everything. There's no reason to play because there's nothing new to get. Crafting was the biggest mistake for this game but the bigger problem is genuinely just due to the game being around for so long and how easy it's been made to earn things.
Legendaries are rares, and exotics are just legendaries at this point. There's nothing worth striving towards. Nothing is difficult to obtain and the only things that are semi difficult to obtain (adepts, raid exotics, etc etc) aren't even better than what we have normally. There's no reason to go for adept weapons because it's not like I'm getting something drastically different compared to what I get out of the regular version or what I get out of a different craftable weapon. And then most of the raid exotics are straight up dog poo.
Loot in a looter shooter needs to actually feel rewarding to get. It needs to feel earned in some capacity. It doesn't feel that way in destiny currently.
And maybe this is a scalding hot take... but good loot should be hard to earn! Exotics should not be some plentiful harvest that I can just spam out without even thinking twice about it. Like it's gotten to the point where my engram inventory is JUST exotic engrams because I have zero use for them.
All that and the removal of any power grind? Why play? The only times you should be playing destiny at this point is:
1. When an expansion drops so you get the expansion story
2. Towards the end of the expansion year so you can get all of the seasonal stories at once and catch up to them.
The in between means nothing. No new exciting loot, no drastically BETTER loot than what is already out there and owned, no power to grind to even get your character stronger, there's nothing.
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1 ReplyEdited by PK_Haseo: 5/5/2025 5:08:21 AMDestiny 2: The Final Shape…the word Final should stand by it’s Word. Marathon is the beginning.
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It needs a final fantasy 14 style revamp. That is to say- an evolution of systems and presentation.
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13 RepliesGo play verity with 5 people who’ve never done it before and then tell them the game needs more difficulty and complexity. I’ll wait.
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5 RepliesCrafting is the only reason I’d do many of the activities as much as I did.
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I don't think it needs a full reset, just activate the missing parts, like crafting and maybe destinations. But what they really should to is to remove all the things that not really belong in the game, like stupid mechanics (kill an enemy and it drops an icon, find the icon and shoot the icon-stuff), and all this "potion"-systems. They should concentrate on the core of the game, it is a looter shooter, so concentrate on environments, story, loot, and not time-delaying stuff that belongs more in a RPG-game.
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I agree with 100% of this, except for the first half. Also, I think the second half is 99.9% wrong. The remaining 0.1%, would be correct, if you changed it entirely, though. Also, you should write longer sentences, but use less words. It's confusing.
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2 RepliesEdited by xbroggiex: 5/5/2025 1:30:53 AMThis just reads like someone who has no clue what the actual issues with the loot system are. Crafting was not the issue, nor is it the "biggest mistake". Exotics shouldn't be rare unless they only offer gimmicks or small bumps to power ala D1. In D2 they are basically the defining item for a build. They should change their tier 1-5 system to use the rarities instead of some name tag (Common, Uncommon, Rare, Legendary and a new fifth one Mythic.) making individual loot that is stuck at a single tier/rarity is a waste of time especially with how Destiny's loot is designed. The power grind is useless if your progression doesn't mean anything other than a difficulty gate/imposition on activities you were already engaging with before. You either should be able to overlevel or reach the level of said activities(I don't like this imo) or just remove the system entirely and have set difficulties with self imposed modifiers(what they are sorta doing.) [quote]There's no reason to play because there's nothing new to get.[/quote] I'm still going for new stuff because it offers a new niche or interesting gameplay. It sounds like you want some form of ARPG loot system where you grind for "better" and "better" gear. Destiny doesn't and can't work like that. Also, here is a shocking take I play the game to have fun and don't give two shits about some "loot chase" because I like shooting the aliens.
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Edited by damascus: 5/5/2025 1:29:47 AMWe do have resets gradually over time - it’s just not forced: It’s called new weapons and deleting older ones that are not as good anymore. Aka deleting an old Fatebringer for the new one, etc. It’s much better to do it this way than a hard reset where stuff is just deleted. You have way more control this way, and can choose to keep older stuff for sentimental reasons such as your first raid weapon, memories attached, cosmetic-affinity or just plain fun with it. We don’t need a sunset, if that’s what is being suggested. I would actually suggest the opposite and say we need more vault space to keep more stuff we earned.
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I disagree with most of your takes here like crafting being bad, but I do agree the game does need something new. The same loop of grinding a boring seasonal activity for another 10 years is already causing me burnout. The game isn’t difficult it’s just tedious at this point and the stuff that’s labeled as difficult is so overtuned it’s just bs instead of fun (like DR stacking and still getting my health nuked). Then on top of that most grind sessions you have nothing to show for it because rng is so bad and loot is so stingy (matador farming and season of revenant farming people know what im talking about). The game needs to start innovating, respecting players time/be more rewarding, and actually having an actual challenge instead of being overtuned.
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Crafting weapons was the only reason l even bothered to run the raids. The reward system in this game is shocking at the best of times when running certain activities. If they ever release a D3, then good luck to them. Not sure how many people will come back to the game by the time if and when that releases
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Should have went for Destiny 3 back at Beyond Light. That would have left D2 intact with all original content still accessible, no need for the content vault.
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Edited by Sky_hawk: 5/5/2025 2:10:16 AMBungo made an enormous mistake… by NOT creating D3 instead they put all of their eggs into Marathon 😂 an extraction shooter that nobody want to play… and it that game flops… it will be the end of Bungo as Sony won’t stomach another major flop… like Concord
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They need to do Destiny 3. Story needs to be far in the future or past so it has nothing to do with Destiny 2. Weapons and armor stats, perks needs to start fresh and be redone. Subclasses needs to be rebuild from the ground up with new powers. They can keep the enemies/races, but need to make new enemies/races, so we have diversity.
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Primary Brick RequiemI guess Marathon is a game by definition - old
The game is gonna get a reset. Actually, the whole company is gonna get a reset when Marathon pulls everything under and Sony comes knocking and ask "where's my money?" -
Weapons got a slight reset during Heresy. Crafting was not done well for a looter game… it should have required copies of the weapon with the perks you wanted (instead of red borders) to incrementally work toward your god roll. Always making progress during a play session. Armor was been lost in the wilderness for a long time too but it’s about to get a refresh. Set bonuses and stats that matter (and probably can’t be cheesed so builds will feel different) Activities during TFS and the episodes have been good for the most part. The Nether mechanic is awesome to make runs feel fresh and the change of the encounters over time helped that as well. The strikes in Echoes were well designed. (Yeah I know someone is going to moan about Battlegrounds not being strikes… but your wrong.) I still enjoy Destiny and look forward to what is coming. Just wish I had time to raid like I used to.
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3 RepliesEdited by christianstevies: 5/4/2025 11:45:44 PMI played destiny from the beginning all the way to lightfall. and I’ll just be honest I got really tired of the same old same old. If they make a d3 I’ll definitely come back!
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Edited by jmann43b: 5/4/2025 6:50:08 PMI agree with you, but I don't know that too many others will.
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1 ReplyYa sunsetting needs to return
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give us destiny 3 so they can bring back Levithan raid
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Bungle studios is all but done putting any real effort into making this game stay relevant. They’ll do the bare minimum and focus on the micro transactions. Just know that it a “skill issue” on their part and are longer able to do much of anything without either adding new broken content or simply breaking existing content with this new content. They’ll double down and start pulling more resources to work on that pile of trash game called Marathon.
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RealDerpPerksaka Hitachi nr83a2 - old
We need a taken king type deal. All our current guns must be useless in the new story mission and strikes and trials/iron banner. I’ve been using felwinters lie for 5 years straight. I was using vilgilance wing for years also. And stop with the long story missions with puzzles. In d1 I would love to have long story missions but no they were short and in d2 they are long but have dumb puzzles and mazes. -
I agree
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Games exist for fun and challenge, as well as keeping the player engaged. If a game does not meet that criteria, then it's bad. Destiny 2 meets both of those in my opinion which is why I always look forward to playing some of the many activities it has to offer. I do understand some of your points, and I think the game could use some changes, but it is overall a great game, it doesn't need an overhaul.
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2 RepliesMaybe this is a hot take, but I play the game to have fun.
