raid in video games is just do same boss fight over and over . most say if fun fight over and over still raid , in timely manner . dungeon crawl is a dungeon , not a raid . sucks when hear dungeon is a raid . when 89% players will never do it , that not a raid , raid when 50% of the game is grinding same monster over and over days and weeks for the item to drop. it sucks when hear bungie making a raid because it not a raid . raid usally are community driven on something outside the developers time to see and there fans are having fun on .