Zhalo is better than Suros in PvE you forgot TLW vs TFC. TFC dominates mid range by a large gap Black Spindle vs Icebreaker. Black spindle you can't stop firing like a gun that never runs out of ammo sort of No Time To Explain has a better potential than Red Death in PvE ever heard of its exotic perk?( infinite shooting on crits) Telesto can kill multiple enemies at once