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9/28/2015 1:03:57 PM
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New titan and warlock supers need to be nerfed!

Hey Bungie, I was playing crucible the other day and I noticed how strong the new titan and warlock supers are, so I figured I would make this thread to discuss this topic. Firstly, they both have to much armor while they're super is activated. If you compare the amount of armor to a similar super in the bladedancer, they both have significantly more. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around why this might be. I mean all three are mobile supers and the sun breaker has many of the same perks as the bladedancer in terms of healing after a kill, but the sun breaker can even get an over shield after a kill. I ran into an instance in a game of elimination where a sun breaker killed my teammate and gained an over shield, I then sniped him with a her benevolence and he still lived. Both the storm caller and the sun breaker can also live through I direct impact rocket. Now compare that to a bladedancer who still gets killed by a shotgun and it really doesn't seem fair, why would you clearly make the other two classes mobile supers better than the others? I always thought the reason why the striker and nova bomb (blanking on the real name) warlock had lots of armor was because they were defenseless while using they're super. How much more OP the sun breaker is compared to the bladedancer is rediculuis. The sun breaker has a farther kill range, the blast radius on the hammers are crazy, and the hammers practically lock on to you. Yet on top all of that they still get more armor, Bungie is practically killing off the hunter. Some changes need to be made bungie. P.S. Don't even get me started on the duration of stormtrance! Thus ahas been a rant by: Scorzies

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  • Stormtrance is somewhat well balanced, however, I can't say the same for the Sunbreaker. Sunbreaker is essentially golden gun fused with a bladedancer. It's ridiculous. Not to mention that it has the most armour in regard to other supers. In addition to having greater duration than any other super. I have used the Sunbreaker before, it's ludicrous how questions were never raised during play testing.

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    • Stop complaining. Bladedancer is the overpowered super for hunters. They all cancel each other out so stop being a bitch just because the other classes have something that could kill just as fast as bladedancer.

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    • Since when do stormcaller have increase armor? They don't. And titans have the best PvP super now, is it the best super in pve? It is not. There is the balance.

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      • So you cant go around with bladecancer getting free kills, so you call for nerfs? Ok kiddo

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        • You can one shot snipe both. It's not bad haha. As a hunter, I like the power. It's suiting. It's like comparing GG to WOD. Of course GG is stronger. Again, they're supers.

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        • How about you fire an arrow and shut them down....

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        • Why are you using year one weapons scrub

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        • Or just make the hunter better....

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          • They do not survive direct impact rockets. Prior to taken king, bladedancers survived rockets head on. A shotgun and melee will down them just like bladedancer does now. The reason it seems like they are taking more damage is because warlocks and Titans have more armor than hunters. Plus with armor being able to grant bonus armor if the right subclass is used it takes even more.

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            • I'm not sure why bungie hinders hunters so much. I mean obviously they have good super for PvP but man why would anyone want a hunter in their group for PvE.

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            • Force Lighting!

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            • Stormcaller's can't even get health back.

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            • [b]f[/b]uck you you whiny scrub.

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              • Warlock supper dose not have much armour or is it just me.? Titans are not that bad. Just run in circle then shoot them in the back of the head.

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              • The new warlock super is trash in crucible. It takes too long to kill someone and can easily be countered with a shotgun.

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                • Edited by CrispyAndThin: 9/28/2015 2:23:03 PM
                  Anyone who can't kill a sunbreaker, is doing it wrong. Have you tried peregrine grieves? How about Khepri's sting? Nothing manacles? Final round headshot? Ahamkara's spine (double tripmine)? Suppressor grenades? Shadowshot? If none of the above work, try this [spoiler]Run[/spoiler] And if that doesn't work, try [spoiler]not complaining that a tank class has more armor than an agility or recovery based class[/spoiler]

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                  • Don't play crucible Problem solved You're welcome

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                  • I agree. I play with all 3 characters and the hunter is now the weakest in my opinion. I get one shotted out of blade dancer and golden gun is the same as always, zero extra armor. The Titan hammer last WAY too long and you can end up throwing up to 7 hammers compared to 4 golden gun shots as well as more armor and over shield. Hunter still has no over shield and the shadow shot is more of a support super. I agree the new Titan and warlock should be merged a little. Just a shorter timer on them would work imo.

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                    • Warlock not op SUNBREAKER as a Titan I can say.. Op not very op but op

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                    • Gfy.

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                      • Didn't even read this post as it is rediculous. How does it feel to not be hunter master race anymore? That is all my friend.

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                        • Dear Titans and Warlocks, this guy does not represent all Hunters that stand by your side in battle. Please forgive us for his ignorance and stupidity as he clearly does not know how to use his class efficiently. Enjoy your new gained powers just as we do and don't hate us because of stupid posts like this. Deepest apologies, A Hunter.

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                          • Oh FFS. Another one? Obviously hunters got the self res ability with the TTK and no one told me because I keep muting their whiny asses but they just keep popping up. I guess I'll try again. *mutes whiny hunter with glowing red ass

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                            • Maybe the Hunter should get a buff instead of nerfing 2 supers? And its called a super for a reason, not something for u to get and get killed right away while u have it

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                              • Let me guess b4 i read this pointlees sit post,you are a hunter..arent you? Lol

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                                • Edited by Rynoceros: 9/28/2015 2:57:16 PM
                                  You don't account for the utility of additional movement speed as Bladedancer or Invisibility or Blink. You offer the Supers up in what is effective head-to-head, which is rarely the case. The measure should how many can it kill in the time during Super activation, which Bladedancer and Sunsinger have the same ability as Sunbreaker to easily blow through an entire Fireteam in seconds with the enemy team spread out.

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