Idk the super personally doesnt sound too helpful. This obviously wont work on bosses and the small guys are too weak for it to be useful. This could be useful for yellow bars but it seems like it would be pretty hard to line them up and even then is there a max limit to how much it can over-penetrate? The titan bubble is much better since u can suppress them with saint 14 while at the same time getting an armor or weapon boost. But hey it was time someone stopped complaining about our super op supers. The grenades are helpful for pvp. In pvp i dont see the super being useful since it is one shot just to supress the player seems like a one person titan grenade. But this is all what i got from it and i can be completely wrong. Im already calling it that these forums will go from- blah blah whine cry cry hunters OP cry cry To- blah blah whine cry cry warlocks OP cry cry