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Edited by Kreis:
7/28/2015 2:55:26 PM
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Re-Buff Auto Rifles Completely! Poll.
So, understandably Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles as the statistics proved they were the most over-used weapons in almost every activity. Now that they've castrated and killed Auto Rifles completley and buffed Pulse Rifles to top-tier and Hand Cannons to the most over-used genre of weapon, they might as well restore ARs to their former glory to compete with the newly buffed and overused Hand Cannons. If they re-buff ARs, will you not use Thorn anymore?
TLW: 2 Hipfire = Kill.
Thorn: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Red Death: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Scout Rifle: 3 Headshot = Kill. ( G-Demise )
Auto Rifles cannot compete with any of these weapons at close range.
If two players that were both pros shot at eachother with perfect aim from the same distance, all of the weapons I just mentioned would clearly win. Unless you get the first shot, no.
The first 3-10 shots in, you will lose any gunfight with an Auto Rifle against a skilled player.
EDIT: Bungie finally gave in. Not only are Thorn and the Last Word receiving a due nerf, but Auto Rifles are receiving the exact buff we decided on ( Or mostly )
To restore Auto Rifles to their prime damage but to keep the range nerfs in place to limit Auto Rifles to close-mid range encounters like Thorn and Last Word were originally intended to be.
Thank you all for consistently bumping this forum and I'm gladly looking forward to the Auto Rifle buff.
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Yes, exotics handcannons would have a competition finally
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It was different with SUROS being king. Other things could compete because it had a slow TTK. The fastest time to kill with The Last Word is around .3 seconds. By the time the brain can react to that, you're already dead. Nothing competes with exotic hand cannons now, except maybe pulse rifles. It shouldn't be that way. People should be able to use whatever they want.
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I'm thinking make the damage drop off at range more. I'm sure this has already been mentioned a lot but when autos where good you could still get that 39 headshot with the Suros on someone who is on the other side of Bastion
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6 RepliesAuto Rifles do need to become a viable choice again but not so that players can just jump around and keep holding the trigger for cheap kills. Hand cannons need a big recoil increase too.
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Yea their whole thing was to nerf the range so the AR's are used the way they were intended, close to medium range, but now they're crap at any range so hand cannons and pulse rifles are tearing you up before you even get their shield down
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1 ReplyBump.
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Edited by FantasticMrFox: 7/1/2015 8:45:35 AMI heard a rumour of a small buff for ARs and a small nerf to HCs. I very much doubt ARs will get put back to where they were, as they were OP at one stage. Just need bumping a little as they are too weak now,
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Bump...
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Signed
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5 RepliesSpeak your lesson and say it true… I do not aim with my hand. He who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye. I do not shoot with my hand. He who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind. I do not kill with my weapon. He who kills with his weapon has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart.
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I was using Suros to see if it was still and good and the handcannons were -blam!-ing finger blasting me
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7 RepliesThese polls -blam!-ing suck. ARs shouldn't be buffed completely just more than half the nerf that was done to them.
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1 ReplyI agree with edit 7
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7 RepliesThey need to be buffed but not by the entire 2.5%
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Wish there was "back to normal for PvE, 2-5% increase for PvP" option. I miss being able to use Suros too but man if that thing didn't melt people in the crucible. Every now and then I'll get dropped by a great TLW, Red Death, etc. player and think "holy shit, what was that?!" When people 2 hip shot me I can't help but feel like that's ok, way to go good player. Suros felt like that all the time but it is so stable and easy to use ANYONE could do it; there's no "you have bested me sir!" moment. I'd love to see it become viable again but it just can't be returned to its full former glory.
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Blame F*Kn PVP for that..They are worthless now..No, less than worthless. Bungie, get your PVP weapon stats sorted out, and quit making excuses to nerf weapons that affect PVE players.!!!!
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Bad juju takes three bursts to kill
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8 RepliesI'm sorry, but what kind of Red Death are you using?
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I'm strictly hand cannon/scout rifles now. I used to be HC/AR, but now that my suros is a joke I had to switch. I was in love with that gun. I would agree with a Re-Buff completely. I want to use my Suros again, its only company in my vault are Grimm Citizen and Hard Light :(
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Auto Rifles need to be at least relevant again.
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I'd happily use my Suros or Pest Control Matrix if AR's get un-nerfed.
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2 RepliesHonestly, I don't care. Just wish they would stop buffing/ nerfing in general. Leave the weapons how they are.
